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Ian D

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Since: Oct 22, 2005
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:08 am
Post subject: New Core i7 system and FSX
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I've got my i7 system up and running. The initial results with
FSX are nothing short of spectacular. I would say the across
the board framerate increase over my Core 2 Duo system is 100%
minimum. Yes, FPS is doubled or more in all situations.

System comparison:

Old system -
Asus P5B Dlx WiFi
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 2.4GHz
4GB OCZ Platinum DDR2 800MHz
nVidia 7950GT, 512MB video
Dual booting XP Pro & Vista Ultimate 64

New system -
Asus P6T Dlx, X58 chipset
Intel Core i7 920 @ 2.66GHz
6GB OCZ Platinum DDR3 1333MHz @ 7-7-7-20
EVGA GTX 260 Core 216, 896MB video
Dual booting XP Pro & Vista Ultimate 64

Same HDs and ViewSonic 22" LCD used.

When I replaced the motherboard, etc, all I had to do to get
XP Pro and Vista running was run the Intel inf and the MB
LAN utilities. No repair installs required. I have to re-activate
both OSs, but I was planning on re-installing them anyway,
although I may go with only Vista 64. I would say this system
is optimized for 64 bit Vista, which has been rock solid since
the hardware upgrade.

Task Manager looks interesting with 8 CPU graphs, also
Core Temp looks different with 8 CPU temps in the systray.
The i7 CPU is organized with cores 0 thru 3, and each core has
HT1 and HT2. FSX only utilizes the HT1 on each of the four
cores, so 4 cores seems to be the max, unless there's a setting
in the fsx.cfg to utilize more.

I found that in every flying situation the FSX framerates were
at min, doubled compared to the E6600 system. I now have
the max set at 30 FPS. It might dip momentarily to 25 in the
most complex scenery areas with traffic, but otherwise it's
rock solid at a smooth 30. Also, the quality of the video rendering
is much improved with the GTX 260. Structures have a more
life-like 3-dimensional quality, especially when running in
64 bit Vista.

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Jay Williams

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:08 am
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Great.

I just went with the middle high range core 2 quad instead of the low end i7

#$@#$

"Ian D" wrote in message

> I've got my i7 system up and running. The initial results with
> FSX are nothing short of spectacular. I would say the across
> the board framerate increase over my Core 2 Duo system is 100%
> minimum. Yes, FPS is doubled or more in all situations.
>
> System comparison:
>
> Old system -
> Asus P5B Dlx WiFi
> Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 2.4GHz
> 4GB OCZ Platinum DDR2 800MHz
> nVidia 7950GT, 512MB video
> Dual booting XP Pro & Vista Ultimate 64
>
> New system -
> Asus P6T Dlx, X58 chipset
> Intel Core i7 920 @ 2.66GHz
> 6GB OCZ Platinum DDR3 1333MHz @ 7-7-7-20
> EVGA GTX 260 Core 216, 896MB video
> Dual booting XP Pro & Vista Ultimate 64
>
> Same HDs and ViewSonic 22" LCD used.
>
> When I replaced the motherboard, etc, all I had to do to get
> XP Pro and Vista running was run the Intel inf and the MB
> LAN utilities. No repair installs required. I have to re-activate
> both OSs, but I was planning on re-installing them anyway,
> although I may go with only Vista 64. I would say this system
> is optimized for 64 bit Vista, which has been rock solid since
> the hardware upgrade.
>
> Task Manager looks interesting with 8 CPU graphs, also
> Core Temp looks different with 8 CPU temps in the systray.
> The i7 CPU is organized with cores 0 thru 3, and each core has
> HT1 and HT2. FSX only utilizes the HT1 on each of the four
> cores, so 4 cores seems to be the max, unless there's a setting
> in the fsx.cfg to utilize more.
>
> I found that in every flying situation the FSX framerates were
> at min, doubled compared to the E6600 system. I now have
> the max set at 30 FPS. It might dip momentarily to 25 in the
> most complex scenery areas with traffic, but otherwise it's
> rock solid at a smooth 30. Also, the quality of the video rendering
> is much improved with the GTX 260. Structures have a more
> life-like 3-dimensional quality, especially when running in
> 64 bit Vista.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Don

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Since: Mar 10, 2008
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 11:33 am
Post subject: Re: New Core i7 system and FSX [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Ian D" wrote in message

> I've got my i7 system up and running. The initial results with
> FSX are nothing short of spectacular. I would say the across
> the board framerate increase over my Core 2 Duo system is 100%
> minimum. Yes, FPS is doubled or more in all situations.
>
> System comparison:
>
> Old system -
> Asus P5B Dlx WiFi
> Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 2.4GHz
> 4GB OCZ Platinum DDR2 800MHz
> nVidia 7950GT, 512MB video
> Dual booting XP Pro & Vista Ultimate 64
>
> New system -
> Asus P6T Dlx, X58 chipset
> Intel Core i7 920 @ 2.66GHz
> 6GB OCZ Platinum DDR3 1333MHz @ 7-7-7-20
> EVGA GTX 260 Core 216, 896MB video
> Dual booting XP Pro & Vista Ultimate 64
>
> Same HDs and ViewSonic 22" LCD used.
>
> When I replaced the motherboard, etc, all I had to do to get
> XP Pro and Vista running was run the Intel inf and the MB
> LAN utilities. No repair installs required. I have to re-activate
> both OSs, but I was planning on re-installing them anyway,
> although I may go with only Vista 64. I would say this system
> is optimized for 64 bit Vista, which has been rock solid since
> the hardware upgrade.
>
> Task Manager looks interesting with 8 CPU graphs, also
> Core Temp looks different with 8 CPU temps in the systray.
> The i7 CPU is organized with cores 0 thru 3, and each core has
> HT1 and HT2. FSX only utilizes the HT1 on each of the four
> cores, so 4 cores seems to be the max, unless there's a setting
> in the fsx.cfg to utilize more.
>
> I found that in every flying situation the FSX framerates were
> at min, doubled compared to the E6600 system. I now have
> the max set at 30 FPS. It might dip momentarily to 25 in the
> most complex scenery areas with traffic, but otherwise it's
> rock solid at a smooth 30. Also, the quality of the video rendering
> is much improved with the GTX 260. Structures have a more
> life-like 3-dimensional quality, especially when running in
> 64 bit Vista.
>


Good to hear thanks for sharing the info.

I am in the planning stages now for my new build, hopefully sometime in
Jan - just have to wait and see what kind of funds I have left after the
Holiday.
I have been following reports closely on the mb forum I frequent and there
are a lot of good things said about the I7 and X58's. I plan on going with
the I7 920 as well, along with the EVGA X58 mb.
I also plan on grabbing the same video card as well, the EVGA GTX260 core
216.




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Don
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Ian D

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:16 pm
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"Jay Williams" wrote in message

> Great.
>
> I just went with the middle high range core 2 quad instead of the low end
> i7
>
> #$@#$
>

I was originally thinking of upgrading to a Q9550, but that
would have requred a new motherboard and DDR3. I was
looking at a fairly high end MB. When I costed them out
I also looked at the Core i7, and was amazed to see that an
i7 system was only about $110 Cdn more, most of that in the
RAM, as you need triple channel. At the time I bought
the Core i7 920, it was acually $40 cheaper than the Q9550.
It's now about $20 less. The MB was about $50 more. The
Triple channel cost $100 Cdn more than the equivalent dual
channel. The new video card was bought earlier when I was
still looking at going to the Q9550.

In most of the reviews I have seen, the i7 920 is in the ballpark
with the i7 extreme. I don't know why they have the 940 as it's
really only a 920+. Also, for overclockers, the 920 is very
overclockable, with proper cooling,

In most benchmarks I have seen, triple channel 1333MHz DDR3
at 7-7-7-20 performs as well, or slightly better than the 1600MHz
at 9-9-9-24 latency. With triple channel and the Core i7 integral
memory controller, going from 9 to 7 latency has the same effect
as 1333Mhz to 1600MHZ.
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scott s.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 7:37 pm
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"Ian D" wrote in


>
> Task Manager looks interesting with 8 CPU graphs, also
> Core Temp looks different with 8 CPU temps in the systray.
> The i7 CPU is organized with cores 0 thru 3, and each core has
> HT1 and HT2. FSX only utilizes the HT1 on each of the four
> cores, so 4 cores seems to be the max, unless there's a setting
> in the fsx.cfg to utilize more.
>
>
>

You might try turning off HT and see if it makes any difference.
I don't think using HT will buy you anything, could be wrong
though.

scott s.
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Ian D

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:28 am
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"scott s." wrote in message

> "Ian D" wrote in
>
>
>>
>> Task Manager looks interesting with 8 CPU graphs, also
>> Core Temp looks different with 8 CPU temps in the systray.
>> The i7 CPU is organized with cores 0 thru 3, and each core has
>> HT1 and HT2. FSX only utilizes the HT1 on each of the four
>> cores, so 4 cores seems to be the max, unless there's a setting
>> in the fsx.cfg to utilize more.
>>
>>
>>
>
> You might try turning off HT and see if it makes any difference.
> I don't think using HT will buy you anything, could be wrong
> though.
>
> scott s.
> .
I tried that. FSX ran perceptibly better with HT on. When running
FSX, Task Manager indicated that when the four HT0 units were
saturated, the HT1 units were still running some processes, and the
total CPU usage reached 65% at times. This shows that the i7 CPU
performance is better with HT on.

As a matter of interest I booted Xp Pro with only one HT unit out
of 8 running, and the FSX framerate was still 30%+ better than my
Core 2 Duo on both cores, so the per core processing throughput
of the Core i7 CPU certainly beats the Core 2 CPUs. The extra
memory bandwidth of the on-CPU memory controller doesn't hurt
either.
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seanyg

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 4:34 pm
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On 23 Dec 2008, 02:28, "Ian D" wrote:
> "scott s." wrote in message
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Ian D" wrote in
> >
>
> >> Task Manager looks interesting with 8 CPU graphs, also
> >>CoreTemp looks different with 8 CPU temps in the systray.
> >> Thei7CPU is organized with cores 0 thru 3, and eachcorehas
> >> HT1 and HT2.  FSX only utilizes the HT1 on each of the four
> >> cores, so 4 cores seems to be the max, unless there's a setting
> >> in the fsx.cfg to utilize more.
>
> > You might try turning off HT and see if it makes any difference.
> > I don't think using HT will buy you anything, could be wrong
> > though.
>
> > scott s.
> > .
>
> I tried that.  FSX ran perceptibly better with HT on.  When running
> FSX, Task Manager indicated that when the four HT0 units were
> saturated, the HT1 units were still running some processes, and the
> total CPU usage reached 65% at times. This shows that thei7CPU
> performance is better with HT on.
>
> As a matter of interest I booted Xp Pro with only one HT unit out
> of 8 running, and the FSX framerate was still 30%+ better than myCore2 Duo on both cores, so the percoreprocessing throughput
> of theCorei7CPU certainly beats theCore2 CPUs.  The extra
> memory bandwidth of the on-CPU memory controller doesn't hurt
> either.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Sorry for potentially diverting the chain, but does anyone know if i7
motherboard which takes two i7 (ie 965) processors will be made/exists?
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